Pylonscasts

Link is broken, and unfortunately after seeking it out at http://pylonshq.com/download/ the file I'm getting from cachefly seems to be busted. Only showing as 4.9 MB, and for the resolution and duration I'd say that can't be right...

Thanks, I've finally gotten new hosting. Turns out it uses a _lot_ of bandwidth.

I really appreciated this screencast...seems like a great introduction to pylons.

As was mentioned in the screencast, I was struck by how much this framework is similar to/influenced by Ruby on Rails. The code basically looks like a python version of Rails, minus scaffolding. However, I noticed another comment that says Paste will generate REST-style controllers...I'll take a look into that.

How can I download this? I tried twice but not getting it.

It's at http://pylonshq.com/video/pylonsdemo1.mov.

How can I use this? Please give me detail information about this version.

Enjoyed pt. 1 any updates on the sequel?

Nice. Using SQL Alchemy and Pylons doesn't seem to be as fun (more code for the same result) as Django, but while watching the code in the video, I noticed several readability advantages to this. It seems that the database layer with that ORM isn't as blackbox as others (which is good for people like me that won't take the highroad in DB land unless I have to, but this gives you better insight to what the DB looks like).

This screencast explained exactly what I needed to know.
However, I did have to go google to figure out that paster will generate the restful style controllers also.
Are the mako templates automatically generated somewhere?

Thanks for the good tutorial !

No, the Mako templates are not automatically generated; you just create an empty file. I'll be more clear about that next time.

I'm going to try and make this as constructive as possible. Basically, this screencast was totally uninspiring. It was just someone pulling git branches and talking about them...and totally unscripted I might add. I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you want to attract people to the Pylons community, it helps to make things a little more professional. A number of times in the video, I heard the narrator slurping on soda or sniffling...it sounded like he basically recorded it one time nonstop and called it good. Also, the screencast didn't (in my eyes) really illustrate much of what Pylons really has to offer. I just looked like someone showing off a simple database accessing script by quickly flashing their git commits in front of the screen and talking about them.

An example of an impressive screencast from a similar product would be the introductary "20 Minute Wiki" screencast from TurboGears. While it is somewhat rushed feeling (It is supposed to be quick, though), it really does a great job of demonstrating TG's "ease of development" factor. The simple fact that the narrator is actually typing his changes and going over them as he does so makes it much easier to follow, especially for someone who is just trying to get a quick idea of what the frameworks are all about.

Anyhow, this isn't meant to be a flame, though I'm sure it sounds like it was. I'm just trying to suggest to make the next ones more professional, more scripted, and try and do a little better job of actually explaining things.

I agree mostly with Jmbo. content over a rushed screencast.

Although I would suggest setting up future screencasts in a different way -possibly automating switching between the steps, or editing it out and throwing up a chapter title. I found switching between all the apps like gitx etc quite distracting, and had to rewind the screencast several times. try to keep to only the relevant apps: editor/browser/terminal.

More visual clues to where the focus is would be helpfull. I wouldn't say that typing out your code is necessary, but it does give the viewer a hint to what piece of code you're talking about. Maybe highlight it with your mouse.

I appreciate it's high quality / res.

Looking forward to more!!

Totally disagree with this comment and from my perspective a great podcast. Keep it up Jon

"Totally uninspiring" is totally subjective. I found the screencast very inspiring and I am really looking forward to a sequel. As for 'professionalism', there is professionalism of 'Learning Visual Basic in 24 hours' and the professionalism of 'I know what I am talking about and I have a good conversational style to convey it'. The author of this screencast has -thankfully- the latter. On the other hand, The '20 Minute Wiki' is dry and definitely not original, so definitely no 'inspiration' points there.

I have been using Pylons for a while and it is definitely fair to say that this screencast does a good job at explaining core features without stressing the viewer in a rush to make something in X minutes.

You comment is not encouraging for the author of this screencast and that's a shame because a lot of people are looking forward to a sequel in the authors particular style. Let's hope more screencasts are coming soon.

-jmbo

I have the unfortunate luck to have a head cold every time I find time to record a screencast. This was true for the 0.9.5 screencasts, and it's true for this one. I'm sorry my breathing was distracting to you.

As far as "what Pylons has to offer", well, that's chiefly flexibility and power. These are difficult things to get across in an introductory screencast. I'd be grateful for any tips you may have.

Play and download links at the bottom are dead - "icon for podpress Podcast Video: Play in Popup | Download"

pylonsdemo1.mov available at http://pylonshq.com/download/ is crippled.

Crippled? How so?

I've removed the other links until I can get Podpress working. :(

The .mov gets a short while in and crashes out (stops playing, as if it's done).

Works for me from here; perhaps your download got corrupted? If it happens again, please let me know the elapsed time at which it stops.

Great job, the screencast strikes the right balance, it is neither overly complex nor too simplistic. Really looking forward to the next one!

Really nice. I look forward to the sequel.

Thanks a lot.

-V

p.s. I wish I was half as productive as you. =D

just a reminder (as requested on #pylons):

asserts are disabled if Python tries to do some basic optimizations (`python -O -c 'assert 1!=1, "not equal"'`)